The Kalam Cosmological Argument
The Kalam Cosmological Argument:
1:Whatever begins to exist has a cause (the law of causality)
2:the universe began to exist
3:therefore,the universe has a cause
"Particles come out of nothing all the itme"
1:That breaks the 1st law of thermodynamics,energy cannot be created or destroyed.
2:Virtual particles come from a preexisting set of natural laws,and from a quantum vacuum.
“If energy cannot be created or destroyed (the first law of thermodynamics) isn’t it possible for energy to have created the universe?”
Energy is dependent on space,matter and time for measurement as far as i am aware of,and space,time and matter had a beginning.
“Things come out of nothing all the time”:
Depends on what you mean by things,i mean why don’t any sort of things like huge things like cars come out of nothing without a cause at anytime?
The “nothing” which causes these things some of you are talking about is probably not nothing since its in space time and matter and space time and matter or something in space time made these “things”.
“Ok,if everything in space time has a cause why couldn’t the universe come from nothing since there was once no space-time?”
Because “nothing” by its own cannot cause anything and it seems to me like God is the best explanation for how the data that we have today shows us that the universe came from nothing.
Also,why could nothing create something out of space time,but couldn’t anymore in space time?
“Why God and not an infinite regress?”
The data that we have today is best explained by designed,and i think that an infinite regress of events would’ve had a lot of problems if the infinite regress wasn’t itself designed,and i don’t see what kind of events could’ve happened in no space,no time and no matter,the only event that happened was the creation of the universe.
and there are philosophical problems with an infinite regress in the past:
An infinite regress of causes is impossible precisely because of what infinite means,there is no end to it. Because there is no end to it (going backwards in time), then it means there was no beginning and if there was no beginning then it’s an eternal universe without a cause, which we know is false.
Let’s say the most recent cause in the infinite causal chain going back to the beginning is C1. So:
The cause of C1 is C2.
The cause of C2 is C3.
The cause of C3 is C4.
The cause of C4 is C5.
The cause of C5 is C6.
The cause of C6 is C7.
The cause of C7 is C8.
The cause of C8 is C9.
The cause of C9 is C10.
The cause of C10 is C11.
The cause of C11 is C12.
The cause of C12 is C13.
The cause of C13 is C14.
The cause of C14 is C15.
The cause of C15 is C16....forever
“There was no time for God to make the universe so therefore God doesn’t exist”
Well all the evidence that we have today shows us that there was no space,no time,and no matter before the existence of the universe so what you are basically saying is that whatever caused the universe it couldn’t have caused the universe since there was no time for the cause to have caused the universe.
If anything could cause something without time that for sure would be an omnipotent being.
Also,there is the idea of metaphysical time and material time,so maybe,before God created the universe,there was some kind of metaphysical time.
“The first premise,the law of causality,only applies to the observable universe as far as we know”
Well what kind of law is preventing nothing from creating anything in the observable universe,and how does it stop it?
If nothing cannot cause anything in the observable universe,why could it cause anything in the whole universe?
"Quantum Vacuums show how something can come out of nothing"
how?how do quantum vacuums show something can come out of nothing?
Quantum vacuums are described by Lawrence Krauss as vacuums of empty space that subatomic particles pop into existence without a cause.
these vacuums are described as nothing.
this commits the fallacy of equivocation because it switches the definition of nothing.
nothing is not something,but a quantum vacuum is something.
a quantum vacuum is a sea of fluctuation of energy that pop these particles into existence.
A quantum vacuum is nothing in the scientific sense,but not in the philosophical sense.
